Upavāṇasutta
A “terminator” is someone who has made an end of suffering. But are they defined by knowledge or conduct?
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Aṅguttara Nikāya 4.175
Numbered Discourses 4.175
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18. Sañcetaniyavagga
18. Intention
Upavāṇasutta
With Upavāṇa
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Atha kho āyasmā upavāṇo yenāyasmā sāriputto tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā āyasmatā sāriputtena saddhiṁ sammodi.
Then Venerable Upavāṇa went up to Venerable Sāriputta, and exchanged greetings with him.
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Sammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho āyasmā upavāṇo āyasmantaṁ sāriputtaṁ etadavoca:
When the greetings and polite conversation were over, Upavāṇa sat down to one side, and said to Sāriputta:
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“Kiṁ nu kho, āvuso sāriputta, vijjāyantakaro hotī”ti?
“Reverend Sāriputta, do you become a terminator because of knowledge?”
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“No hidaṁ, āvuso”.
“That’s not it, reverend.”
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“Kiṁ panāvuso sāriputta, caraṇenantakaro hotī”ti?
“Do you become a terminator because of conduct?”
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“No hidaṁ, āvuso”.
“That’s not it, reverend.”
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“Kiṁ panāvuso sāriputta, vijjācaraṇenantakaro hotī”ti?
“Do you become a terminator because of both knowledge and conduct?”
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“No hidaṁ, āvuso”.
“That’s not it, reverend.”
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“Kiṁ panāvuso sāriputta, aññatra vijjācaraṇenantakaro hotī”ti?
“Do you become a terminator for some reason other than knowledge and conduct?”
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“No hidaṁ, āvuso”.
“That’s not it, reverend.”
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“‘Kiṁ nu kho, āvuso sāriputta, vijjāyantakaro hotī’ti, iti puṭṭho samāno:
“Reverend Sāriputta, when asked whether you become a terminator because of knowledge or conduct or knowledge and conduct, or for some other reason,
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‘no hidaṁ, āvuso’ti vadesi.
you say ‘that’s not it’.
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‘Kiṁ panāvuso sāriputta, caraṇenantakaro hotī’ti, iti puṭṭho samāno:
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‘no hidaṁ, āvuso’ti vadesi.
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‘Kiṁ panāvuso sāriputta, vijjācaraṇenantakaro hotī’ti, iti puṭṭho samāno:
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‘no hidaṁ, āvuso’ti vadesi.
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‘Kiṁ panāvuso sāriputta, aññatra vijjācaraṇenantakaro hotī’ti, iti puṭṭho samāno:
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‘no hidaṁ, āvuso’ti vadesi.
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Yathā kathaṁ panāvuso, antakaro hotī”ti?
How then do you become a terminator?”
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“Vijjāya ce, āvuso, antakaro abhavissa, saupādānova samāno antakaro abhavissa.
“Reverend, if you became a terminator because of knowledge, then even someone who still grasps fuel could be a terminator.
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Caraṇena ce, āvuso, antakaro abhavissa, saupādānova samāno antakaro abhavissa.
If you became a terminator because of conduct, then even someone who still grasps fuel could be a terminator.
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Vijjācaraṇena ce, āvuso, antakaro abhavissa, saupādānova samāno antakaro abhavissa.
If you became a terminator because of both knowledge and conduct, then even someone who still grasps fuel could be a terminator.
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Aññatra vijjācaraṇena ce, āvuso, antakaro abhavissa, puthujjano antakaro abhavissa.
If you became a terminator for some reason other than knowledge and conduct, then even an ordinary person could be a terminator.
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Puthujjano hi, āvuso, aññatra vijjācaraṇena.
For an ordinary person lacks knowledge and conduct.
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Caraṇavipanno kho, āvuso, yathābhūtaṁ na jānāti na passati.
Reverend, someone lacking good conduct does not know and see things as they are.
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Caraṇasampanno yathābhūtaṁ jānāti passati.
Someone accomplished in good conduct knows and sees things as they are.
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Yathābhūtaṁ jānaṁ passaṁ antakaro hotī”ti.
Knowing and seeing things as they are, one is a terminator.”
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Pañcamaṁ.
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